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ANONG URI NG KAMATAYAN ANG NANGYARI KAY JESUS: PHYSICAL DEATH OR END OF EXISTENCE?

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The Glory of the Cross is the fact that it bears JESUS OUR GOD AND SAVIOR who died for our Redemption.

The Glory of the Cross is the fact that it bears JESUS OUR GOD AND SAVIOR who died for our Redemption.

Donato Potong ·
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Totoo naman talaga na ang namtay ang person ni Hesus.Subalit ang tanong kasi doon…para ma clarify…Anong uring kamatayan ang nangyari kay Hesus?It is physical death or end of exiestince?
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Ramon Gitamondoc ·
Donato Potong, I think this explanation from Reverend Father Carlos Estrada will answer your question: He said,

Therefore, in Christ’s death are verified the essential features of every human death. These include the separation of body and soul; that is, the body is rendered lifeless, it loses its vital operations. To say that Jesus truly died, therefore, is the same as saying that his body became lifeless, it had no vital operations. This is also the same as saying that during the days he was dead, in a sense he ceased to be a man; because man is a union of body and soul; neither body nor soul on its own constitutes a man.

Jesus, then, “tasted death”, that is to say, he experienced “the condition of death, the separation of his soul from his body, between the time he expired on the cross and the time he was raised from the dead. The state of the dead Christ is the mystery of the tomb and the descent into hell.”

[Totoo naman talaga na ang namtay ang person ni Hesus.Subalit ang tanong kasi doon…para ma clarify…Anong uring kamatayan ang nangyari kay Hesus?It is physical death or end of exiestince?]

THE DEFINITION OF DEATH IN OUR CATHOLIC FAITH IS NOT PHYSICAL ONLY OR END OF EXISTENCE. DEATH IS THE SEPARATION OF BODY AND SOUL. THAT IS WHY IT IS ATTRIBUTED TO THE PERSON NOT TO THE BODY ONLY.

END OF EXISTENCE IS NOT DEATH IN CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE IT IS CONTRARY TO THE DOGMA OF LIFE AFTER DEATH. SO IT IS HERETICAL TO THINK THAT DEATH IS END OF EXISTENCE. EVEN MOSES AND ABRAHAM WERE SHOWN IN HEAVEN ALIVE AFTER DEATH.

DEATH IS NOT PHYSICAL ONLY BECAUSE IT ALSO INVOLVES THE SOUL. THE AGONY OF DEATH INVOLVES BODY AND SOUL. SO IT IS THE PERSON NOT THE PHYSICAL OR BODILY ASPECT ALONE.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. PAREHONG MALI IF YOU WILL INTERPRET IT AS PHYSICAL DEATH ONLY OR END OF EXISTENCE. ANG TAMA AY: DEATH IS THE SEPARATION OF THE BODY AND SOUL.

Donato Potong ·
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Hello Sir Ramon…Thank you in your response……What I have understand in your answer is only to clarify that the death of Jesus is only a physical death or it is only a separtion of body and soul…..Therefore if we say only human nature died or only human flesh died this is vallid and not heretical.
Hopefully that no one of us are thinking or teaching that the exiestince of the divine person of the second person of the Holy Trinity was end during his three days of suffering and death.The existince of GOD will never end as Catholic Dogma is concened.
[Hello Sir Ramon…Thank you in your response……What I have understand in your answer is only to clarify that the death of Jesus is only a physical death or it is only a separtion of body and soul…..Therefore if we say only human nature died or only human flesh died this is vallid and not heretical.]

THE ANSWER IS ALREADY GIVEN BY PROF. Ramon Gitamondoc:

“Jesus, then, “tasted death”, that is to say, he experienced “the condition of death, the separation of his soul from his body, between the time he expired on the cross and the time he was raised from the dead. The state of the dead Christ is the mystery of the tomb and the descent into hell.”

DEATH IS ATTRIBUTED TO THE PERSON. IT WAS JESUS WHO DIED BECAUSE IT WAS JESUS ‘THE PERSON’ WHO EXPERIENCED OR TASTED THE SEPARATION OF HIS BODY AND SOUL. TO CLAIM THAT ONLY HUMAN FLESH DIED OR ONLY HUMAN NATURE DIED IS BOTH HERETICAL BECAUSE DEATH IS NOT ATTRIBUTED TO THE PERSON BUT TO THE NATURE OR FLESH ONLY. THEY ARE WRONG.

THAT IS WHY THE ARCHBISHOP AND THE CFD NATIONAL PRESIDENT BOTH TEACH THAT “GOD DIED” IS REAL BECAUSE THE ONE WHO EXPERIENCED DEATH IS THE PERSON OF JESUS. THE PERSON OF JESUS IS GOD. IF IT IS HUMAN NATURE ONLY THEN THE CATECHISM IS WRONG IN SAYING THAT GOD DIED IS THE STRICTEST TRUTH.

THAT ONLY HUMAN NATURE DIED OR ONLY THE FLESH DIED IS ACTUALLY ILLOGICAL, STUPID AND ERRONEOUS.

[Hopefully that no one of us are thinking or teaching that the exiestince of the divine person of the second person of the Holy Trinity was end during his three days of suffering and death.The existince of GOD will never end as Catholic Dogma is concened.]

WE ARE NOT THINKING THAT THE SECOND PERSON OF THE TRINITY CEASED OR ENDED TO EXIST BECAUSE WE ARE NOT STUPID TO THINK THAT DEATH MEANS END OF EXISTENCE. WE KEEP ON TELLING YOU TO AVOID THAT MEANING. THAT IS NOT THE CATHOLIC MEANING OF DEATH. BUT YOU KEEP ON IMPOSING IT AND MENTIONING IT. SO YOUR QUESTION MUST BE DIRECTED BY YOU TO YOUR OWN HEART AND MIND RATHER THAN TO US.

THE ARCHBISHOP OF CEBU IS A GREATH CATHOLIC THINKER OF HIS OWN RIGHT AND HE SAYS: “GOD DIED” IS NOT FIGURATIVE BUT REAL. SO IT REFERS TO THE PERSON OF JESUS NOT TO THE BODY ONLY, NOT TO THE FLESH ONLY AND NOT TO HUMAN NATURE ONLY. JESUS OUR GOD DIED THROUGH HIS HUMAN NATURE OR THROUGH HIS BODY BUT IT IS NOT THE HUMAN NATURE ONLY OR THE BODY ONLY THAT DIED. THE CHURCH AND THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT JESUS DIED. THEY DO NOT TEACH THAT ONLY THE BODY OF JESUS DIED OR ONLY THE HUMAN NATURE DIED.

OF COURSE, THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WILL NEVER END. THAT IS WHY STOP THINKING THAT DEATH MEANS END OF EXISTENCE BECAUSE IT IS NOT.


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