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REFUTING THE DECEPTIVE CLAIMS OF A JEHOVAH’S WITNESS ON THEIR NON INVOLVEMENT IN WAR By Aloysius Kayiwa

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WATCH TOWER DECEPTION AND MIND CONTROL!

This Mr .Jehovah’s Witnesses,Vince Labayog is quick to point a finger at other religions for their involvement in warfare or military service and then claims that Jehovah’s Witnesses are the only true Christians because they do not engage in war. As typical of Watch Tower faulty reasoning, i gave him a favor of a debate challenge in a group until he started to attack me. Here below is part of my debate with him;


1.<<< there are a number of pacifist religious groups>>>

Have you really read my post? Here is what i said:  Imagine If All People Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? There Would Be No War!

Is it deceptive to think that, if all the people in the world are christians there would be no war?

Since, JW’s are the only Christian organization in the truest sense because they do not go to war, therefore, there would be no war.

2.<<<the Bible does not discourage all forms of warfare.>>>

Really? i thought you know your Bible? That is why, Catholic is very good at deception, they are not just deceiving people, they also deceive themselves. The result of their self deception is catastrophic as seen in the WW2 alone. The definition of a “Christian” is “one who does what Christ would do” (1 Pet.2:21). That slaughter of “Christian” by “Christian” is rotten fruitage. It is a denial of any claim to being the true Church (cf. Mat.26:52). No Christian would continue to associate with these religions (Rev.18:4).

What is the historical record of Catholics and Protestants regarding warfare? Today Catholics continue to kill Catholics and Protestants kill Protestants, something true Christians would not do (1Jn.3:10,15; 4:8). Our hearts tell us that any religion who is willing to shoot their own members in warfare cannot possibly be trusted to teach Biblical truth.

Jehovah’s Witnesses have never participated in warfare. but they are regarded as “cult” by those people who are really a cult in the truest sense of the word.

Hypocrisy is one of their attribute…


 Aloysius Kayiwa

//Here is what i said:
Imagine If All People Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? There Would Be No War!Is it deceptive to think that, if all the people in the world are christians there would be no war?//

How are you sure about that? That is imaginative Watch Tower false reasoning which is NOT based on facts but on rhetorical  and assumptive fallacies.  

///Since, JW’s are the only Christian organization in the truest sense because they do not go to war, therefore, there would be no war.//

This is far from correct. Being a true Christian is not based on whether you refrain from war or not. Being a Christian is based on faith in Jesus and consequent baptism as well as membership in his body-the Church. This self-proclamation of uniqueness is far from correct; numerous religious organisations apart from the Watch Tower Society also do not participate in warfare. Would that make them true Christians? 

These statements are another area that highlights the dishonesty of the Watchtower in attempting to convince their followers that they are unique and alone are acceptable to God.

//Really? i thought you know your Bible? That is why, Catholic is very good at deception, they are not just deceiving people, they also deceive themselves. //

You need to challenge us other than resorting to ad hominems and other stupid attacks. Challenge my response with proper logic and reasoning and stop being an idiot.

//The result of their self deception is catastrophic as seen in the WW2 alone.///

Huh if you will only prove these stupid claims will you only be believed. I still can’t see you challenging me. Stop behaving like a scared boxer. I can also enumerate Watch Tower involvement in WW2 if you want us to go there.

//The definition of a “Christian” is “one who does what Christ would do” (1 Pet.2:21). That slaughter of “Christian” by “Christian” is rotten fruitage. It is a denial of any claim to being the true Church (cf. Mat.26:52). No Christian would continue to associate with these religions (Rev.18:4).//

So what? And this proves what?Do you want to mean that soldiers and defence forces of your country are not doing what Christ does by protecting your nation? And which Christian is slaughtering other Christians?You must be day dreaming bunny. Do you to mean those soldiers in Jesus time were not doing what Christ does? If so why didn’t Jesus castigate them?

And by the way, at Matthew 8:5-13 Jesus did not turn the soldier away when asking to heal his manservant, rather commending him saying “I have not found anyone In Israel with such great faith” In the account at Acts 10, Cornelius was not required to step down as commander of Roman soldiers before being baptised.

//What is the historical record of Catholics and Protestants regarding warfare?//

Does this make any sense in defending Watch Tower doctrine against war? What if we also enumerate Jehovah’s Witnesses historical record regarding warfare.

Do you know that Watch Tower “brothers”  served the war effort  as early as 1919 before the Watch Tower developed a doctrine against war? Loot at part of this letter published in the 1919 Watchtower.

“I write you a few lines, as it might be of interest to you to know where the young brethren are who are in the military service of the U.S.A. I am from the Chicago Ecclesia, and was drafted in service last May, sent to one of our training camps, and was placed in the medical department of the 106 Engineers.”Watchtower 1919 Mar 1 reprints page 6402

//Today Catholics continue to kill Catholics and Protestants kill Protestants, something true Christians would not do (1Jn.3:10,15; 4:8). //

This is not proved but is based on lies from the Watch Tower cult. We all know that today, the Catholic Church is the largest crusader against war with the Pope traversing the world making appeals against war. There is no Catholic killing each other as you insinuate. That is typical Watch Tower deception based on false reasoning without proof.

//Our hearts tell us that any religion who is willing to shoot their own members in warfare cannot possibly be trusted to teach Biblical truth.//

Then why did the Watch Tower Society relax the stance against war in 1996-in which it consequently allowed military service and civilian duty as a matter of conscience? Read what the WTS suggested to Jehovah’s Witnesses;

“What, though, if the Christian lives in a land where exemption [from military service] is not granted to ministers of religion? Then he will have to make a personal decision following his Bible-trained conscience. What, though, if the State requires a Christian for a period of time to perform civilian service that is a part of national service under a civilian administration? That is his decision before Jehovah.” Watchtower 1996 May 1 pp.19-20

You need to read your cults magazines again!

//Jehovah’s Witnesses have never participated in warfare. but they are regarded as “cult” by those people who are really a cult in the truest sense of the word.//

That is BIG lie. The WTS has lied to you. In reality, this is deceptive, as during World War One, Watchtower followers were able to be soldiers, as long as they did not kill others, and until the Second World War they engaged in civilian duties at war.

Originally, under Charles Russell’s direction, Bible Students participated in non-combatant duty and even went to the trenches. Read here;

“Notice that there is no command in the Scriptures against military service. … No, it would be quite right to shoot, not to kill. You forget, perhaps, our provisos, which were that we explain our conscientious scruples against war, and seek to be excused: if not excused, that we seek non-combatant positions, as nurses, etc.; but if compelled to go a mile or many miles as a soldier, we still need not kill anybody.” Zion’s Watch Tower 1898 Aug 1 p.231 

//Hypocrisy is one of their attribute…//

The hypocrisy is yours because you claim JWs have never participated in war and you are quick to point fingers yet JWs used to participate in war. Isn’t that hypocrisy? You are caught in hypocrisy Mr. Jehovah’s Witnesses. I have heard many Jehovah’s Witnesses indicate the key reason they believe the Watchtower Society represents the only true religion is their refusal to participate in warfare. However, true religion is not based on participation or non-participation in war.

Again,what most Jehovah’s Witnesses do not seem to be aware of is that a number of religions do not participate in war. Would that make them true Christians as well? 


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