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Part 4 SAGOT SA ISANG SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST [SDA] MOM HINGGIL SA Mt 16:18-19

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The Lord Jesus with St. Peter and St. Paul and the other apostles

The Lord Jesus with St. Peter and St. Paul and the other apostles

 

1ST PART: Part 1 SAGOT SA ISANG SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST [SDA] MOM HINGGIL SA Mt 16:18-19

2ND PART: Part 2 SAGOT SA ISANG SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST [SDA] MOM HINGGIL SA Mt 16:18-19

3RD PART: Part 3 SAGOT SA ISANG SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST [SDA] MOM HINGGIL SA Mt 16:18-19

 

SDA MOM:

Ngayon, punta na naman tayo sa quoted text mo na John 20:23. The context of John 20:23 ay sa verse 19 where Jesus was speaking to the disciples. He breathed on them to receive the Holy Spirit in verse 22. There is nothing in here about priests having the authority to forgive sins. There is NOTHING here or anywhere else in the New Testament about apostolic SUCCESSION that says priests have the authority to forgive sins and that it is passed down. Ang Bible may binanggit na appointing elders in Acts 14:23, Titus 1:5 and that the disciples of Jesus had special authority (Matt. 16:18). It speaks of the laying on of hands to receive the Holy Spirit (Acts 8:19) as well as ordaining men to the ministry (1 Tim. 4:14; 2 Tim. 1:6; Titus 1:5). The laying on of hands deals with ordination, not apostolic authority being passed down. After all, they were ordaining elders and not apostles; and it was the apostles who were given the authority by Christ to do miracles and write scripture. Nothing is said here about apostolic authority being passed down,

[Ngayon, punta na naman tayo sa quoted text mo na John 20:23. The context of John 20:23 ay sa verse 19 where Jesus was speaking to the disciples. He breathed on them to receive the Holy Spirit in verse 22. There is nothing in here about priests having the authority to forgive sins.]

THAT IS NOT THE CONTEXT OF THE TEXT. THE v.19 SIMPLY STATES THAT THE AUTHORITY TO FORGIVE SINS COMES FROM JESUS THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT. MEANING, THE AUTHORITY TO FORGIVE SINS BY THE LEADERS OF THE CHURCH CAME DIRECTLY FROM GOD.

 [There is NOTHING here or anywhere else in the New Testament about apostolic SUCCESSION that says priests have the authority to forgive sins and that it is passed down.]

HA HA HA… YOU CANNOT SEE THE WORD PRIEST BECAUSE YOU ARE MOST PROBABLY IGNORANT OF THE MEANNG OF THE TERM. THE TERM PRIEST OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS A SIMPLIFIED AND SHORT FORM OF PRESBYTER FROM GREEK WORD PRESBYTEROS, PLURAL PRESBYTEROI. THE LEADERS OF THE CHURCH ARE CALLED PRESBYTEROI IN GREEK WITH PRESBYTEROS FOR SINGLE FORM. IN ENGLISH THEY ARE CALLED PRESBYTER AND ITS SIMPLE FORM PRIEST:

1 Peter 5:1 [KJV]  “The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed”

HERE IS THE ORIGINAL GREEK:

1 Peter 5:1  Πρεσβυτέρους τοὺς ἐν ὑμῖν παρακαλῶ ὁ συμπρεσβύτερος καὶ μάρτυς τῶν τοῦ Χριστοῦ παθημάτων, ὁ καὶ τῆς μελλούσης ἀποκαλύπτεσθαι δόξης κοινωνός,

πρεσβύτερος

presbuteros

pres-boo’-ter-os

Comparative of πρέσβυς presbus (elderly); older; as noun, a senior; specifically an Israelite Sanhedrist (also figuratively, member of the celestial council) or Christian “presbyter”: – elder (-est), old.

PETER HIMSELF IS A PRESBYTER AND TOGETHER WITH HIM THERE WERE OTHER PRESBYTERS. THEY ARE PRIESTS. THEY ARE ORDAINED INTO PRESBYTERAL RANK:

Tit 1:5  [KJV] For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ORDAIN ELDERS IN EVERY CITY, as I had appointed thee

MY QUESTION TO YOU: SINO ANG NAG ORDAIN KAY ELLEN GOULD WHITE TO BE THE LEADER AND FOUNDER OF SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST? SI LUCIFER BA O SI SATANAS?

 [Ang Bible may binanggit na appointing elders in Acts 14:23, Titus 1:5 and that the disciples of Jesus had special authority (Matt. 16:18).]

THE ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS OF THE BIBLE ARE NOT THE ORIGINAL TEXTS OF THE BIBLE. IN ORIGINAL GREEK THE TERMS USED FOR THEM WERE PRESBYTEROS AND EPISCOPOS [BISHOP OR OVERSEER]. THE APOSTLES WERE BISHOPS AND PRESBYTERS.

ANG TANONG: SINO ANG NAG APPOINT KAY ELLEN GOULD WHITE TO BE THE LEADER AND FOUNDER OF SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST? SI LUCIFER BA O SI SATANAS?

ANG MGA TUNAY NA ELDERS OF THE CHURCH WERE ORDAINED IN APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION LIKE TIMOTHY AND TITUS THROUGH WHICH THEY BECAME BISHOPS AND PRESBYTERS OF THE CHURCH. THEY ARE GOT EPISCOPAL AUTHORITY AND MEMBERS OF PRESBYTERAL COUNCIL BY ORDINATION, NOT BY HALLUCINATION OF ELLEN GOULD WHITE. HA HA HA.. READ THESE:

1 Ti 3:1  This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

2 Ti 4:22  The Lord Jesus Christ be with thy spirit. Grace be with you. Amen. The second epistle unto Timotheus, ordained the first bishop of the church of the Ephesians, was written from Rome, when Paul was brought before Nero the second time.

Tit 1:7  For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;

Tit 3:15  All that are with me salute thee. Greet them that love us in the faith. Grace be with you all. Amen. It was written to Titus, ordained the first bishop of the church of the Cretians, from Nicopolis of Macedonia.

THE CHURCH LEADERS ARE BISHOPS WHICH IS A HIGH RANKING PRESBYTER OR PRIEST OF THE CHURCH. 

NOW, LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR LEADERSHIP:

* WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE YOUR ‘GENERAL CONFERENCE’?

* WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE YOUR ‘LOCAL CONFERENCE’?

* WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE YOUR ‘UNION CONFERENCE’?

* WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE YOUR ‘GENERAL CONFERENCE PRESIDENT’? WHERE IN HELL DID YOU GET THIS TITLE OF GENERAL CONFERENCE PRESIDENT? FROM WASHINGTON? WHERE IS THAT IN THE BIBLE?

* WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE YOUR ‘GENERAL CONFERENCE SECRETARY’? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE. HA HAHA…

* WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE YOUR TITLE OF ‘DIVISION PRESIDENT’? 

MAY KAPAL KAYO NG MUKA NA I QUESTION ANG POPE AND PRIEST YET YOUR LEADERSHIP ARE VERY VERY UNBIBLICAL. PRESIDENT??? IS THERE A PRESIDENT AMONG THE APOSTLES? HA HA HA… CONFERENCE??? HA HA HA… NOW, WE DEMAND THAT YOU GIVE THE BIBLICAL ORIGIN OF THESE SDA TITLES AND OFFICES. CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE. IF YOU CANNOT GIVE SHAME ON YOU!

 [It speaks of the laying on of hands to receive the Holy Spirit (Acts 8:19) as well as ordaining men to the ministry (1 Tim. 4:14; 2 Tim. 1:6; Titus 1:5).]

WELL, IT SLAPS YOU ON THE FACE MADAME. YOU STATED THERE “ORDAINING MEN TO THE MINISTRY”. HA HA HA… HOW COME YOUR FOUNDER IS NOT A MAN BUT A WOMAN? WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO ORDAINED ELLEN GOULD WHITE INTO MINISTRY? WHO? WAS IT SATAN OR LUCIFER? HA HA HA…

 [The laying on of hands deals with ordination, not apostolic authority being passed down.]

THAT IS VERY STUPID. THE LAYING DOWN OF HANDS IS AN ACT OF ORDINATION TO PASS APOSTOLIC AUTHORITY. SO THAT WHEN THE APOSTLES PASS AWAY THEIR AUTHORITY AND MISSION WILL CONTINUE IN THE CHURCH. ST. PETER AND ST. PAUL WERE PRESBYTERS AND EPISCOPOI OF THE CHURCH SO THEY ORDAINED TO PASS APOSTOLIC AUTHORITY AS LEADERS OF THE CHURCH. HA HA HA…

SO IF ORDINATION DOES NOT PASS APOSTOLIC AUTHORITY THEN THERE IS NO APOSTOLIC AUTHORITY IN SDA. HA HA HA SA DEMONIO KAYO. THE TRUE CHURCH IS FOUNDED ON THE APOSTLES:

 [After all, they were ordaining elders and not apostles; and it was the apostles who were given the authority by Christ to do miracles and write scripture. Nothing is said here about apostolic authority being passed down,]

HA HA HA THAT IS VERY STUPID AND VERY FUNNY. HA HA HA… THE LORD JESUS APPOINTED TWELVE APOSTLES BUT WHEN THE LORD JESUS WENT BACK TO HEAVEN THE APOSTLES CHOSE, APPOINTED AND ORDAINED NEW APOSTLES LIKE ST. MATTHIAS, ST. PAUL, TIMOTHY AND TITUS, ETC.

MATTHIAS BECAME AN APOSTLE THROUGH DIRECT APPOINTMENT FROM THE LORD JESUS BUT BY AUTHORITY OF ST. PETER WHO CALLED FOR ELECTION [cf. Acts 1:15-23]. THERE IS A SUCCESSION OF APOSTOLIC AUTHORITY.

PAUL HIMSELF SPEAKS OF BEING ORDAINED A PREACHER AND AN APOSTLE:

1 Tim 2:7 [KJV]  “Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.”

NOW, SINCE BY YOUR ADMISSION THERE IS NO APOSTOLIC AUTHORITY PASSED DOWN IN SDA THEN YOU BELONG TO THE DEVIL. YOUR NEWLY INVENTED CULT IS NOT GIFTED WITH APOSTOLIC AUTHORITY. WHY? BECAUSE IT IS FAKE. HA HA HA…

YOUR SDA CULT IS PATHETIC… PITIFUL. FAKE. GET OUT OF THAT FAKE AND NEWLY INVENTED CULT FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR SOUL. HAVE PITY ON YOURSELF AND THE SOULS OF YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR CHILDREN’S CHILDREN. RETURN TO THE TRUE CHURCH WITH APOSTOLIC AUTHORITY AND FOUNDED ON ST. PETER NOT ON ELLEN GOULD WHITE.


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