“Nganong every now and then bsta magpista naay mag-inom? Imbis magpasalamat kay devotion man kaha na ninyo sa inyong santo. Nganong naa may magparty-party sa pista? Imbis manimba ug mag worship mo sa inyong santo. Nganong maghanda man mog abunda? Imbis kay mag fasting mo in return sa maayong gibuhat sa inyong santo. And at the first place nganong mag worship man mo sa santos? Don’t get me wrong, don’t even bother argue about you don’t worship them. Following and putting them in your houses and churches is an act of worship, biblically speaking. And that’s the thing, is God not enough for a single person on earth to worship for? Why not worship Him, and Him alone?
These altercations used to keep me up at night. Still not convinced about Catholicism. Moreover, I am not inducting a religion war here. Just an admonition of a one contradictive mind. You’re free to put down this post, but someday, somehow you’d wake up on your bed realizing why on earth are you idolizing false gods and prophecies.”
The Splendor of the Church
HELLO BRO, LET ME ANSWER THAT ANTI-CATHOLIC:
["why is it that every now and then, when it's fiesta, there's always party or something like drinking of alcoholic beverage?]
IT IS QUITE OBVIOUS MR. ANTI-CATHOLIC THAT YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THE BASIC NATURE OF A ‘FEAST’ AS IT IS PRESENTED IN THE SACRED SCRIPTURE. THE WORD FEAST OR THE ACT OF CELEBRATING A FEAST CALLED “FEASTING” ALWAYS SIGNIFIES EATING AND DRINKING AS WAY OF WORSHIPING GOD AND GIVING HIM THANKS FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS RECEIVED FROM HIM. THE TERM FEAST IS ALMOST SYNONYMOUS WITH BANQUET FROM THE TIME OF ABRAHAM UNTIL NOW. READ THE BIBLE CAREFULLY:
Is 25:6 [KJV] “And in this mountain shall the LORD of hosts make unto all people a FEAST of fat things, a FEAST OF WINES on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of WINES on the lees well refined.”
THAT IS THE MESSIANIC PROPHECY. IN THE COMING OF THE MESSIAH THERE WILL BE FEASTING OF FOOD AT THE TABLE AND THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF WINE:
Ps 23:5 [KJV] “Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.”
THAT IS FULFILLED IN JESUS. THAT IS WHY THE LORD JESUS HIMSELF LIKENED THE KINGDOM OF GOD TO A WEDDING FEAST:
Mt 22:1-9 [GNB] “Jesus again used parables in talking to the people. “The Kingdom of heaven is like this. Once there was a king who prepared a WEDDING FEAST for his son. He sent his servants to tell the invited guests to come to THE FEAST, but they did not want to come. So he sent other servants with this message for the guests: ‘MY FEAST is ready now; my steers and prize calves have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to THE WEDDING FEAST!’ But the invited guests paid no attention and went about their business: one went to his farm, another to his store, while others grabbed the servants, beat them, and killed them. The king was very angry; so he sent his soldiers, who killed those murderers and burned down their city. Then he called his servants and said to them, ‘MY WEDDING FEAST is ready, but the people I invited did not deserve it. Now go to the main streets and invite to THE FEAST as many people as you find.'”
LOOK AT THE PASSAGE: WHO IS THE KING? GOD THE FATHER. SEE, GOD THE FATHER PREPARED A FEAST FOR HIS SON. WHO IS THE SON OF THE FATHER? JESUS THE LORD. THEN, THE FATHER SENT HIS SOLDIERS, i.e., THE PROPHETS, THE PATRIARCHS, THE APOSTLES, THE SAINTS TO INVITE PEOPLE TO THE FEAST BUT THE PEOPLE INSTEAD ATTACKED THOSE WHO WERE INVITING THEM TO THE FEAST.
NOW, LET US APPLY IT TO OUR SITUATION TODAY. WHO ARE THOSE INVITING PEOPLE TO CELEBRATE AND ENJOY THE FEAST OF GOD AND HIS SON JESUS? THE CATHOLICS. HA HA HA… AND WHO ARE THOSE WHO ARE ANTI-FEASTS AND DON’T WANT TO JOIN THE INVITATION FOR THE FEAST OF GOD? THE ANTI-CATHOLICS. HA HA HA YOUR FRIEND AND HIS FELLOW ANTI-CATHOLICS SUCH AS IGLESIA NI MANALO, ANG DATING DAAN OF MAMA ELI SORIANO, JEHOVAH WITNESSES [SAKSI NI BAHO], SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS [ADVENTISTA] OF THE 666 ELLEN GOULD WHITE, ETC.
Mt 22:10 [KJV] So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, good and bad alike; and the wedding hall was filled with people.
SO, THE SERVANTS OF GOD [THE PROPHETS AND THE APOSTLES] CALLED THE PEOPLE TO JOIN THE FEAST OF GOD. THEY INVITED NOT ONLY THE GOOD PERSONS BUT EVEN THE BAD. SO, IN OUR CATHOLIC FEAST YOU CAN ALSO SEE SOME BAD PEOPLE WHO GET DRUNK BECAUSE JESUS WANTED THEM TO BE INVITED. IF IN YOUR CHURCH ONLY THE GOOD IS PRESENT IT MEANS YOUR MINISTERS ARE NOT THE REAL SERVANTS OF GOD. THEY ARE NOT THE TRUE PROPHETS AND APOSTLES OF JESUS. THE CATHOLIC MINISTERS ARE THE REAL ONE.
Mt 22:11-13 [KJV] “The king went in to look at the guests and saw a man who was not wearing wedding clothes. ‘Friend, how did you get in here without wedding clothes?’ the king asked him. But the man said nothing. Then the king told the servants, ‘Tie him up hand and foot, and throw him outside in the dark. There he will cry and gnash his teeth.’ “
IT IS THE KING, THAT IS GOD OR JESUS WHO WILL JUDGE BOTH THE GOOD AND THE BAD, THE SAINTS AND THE SINNERS BUT ALL PEOPLE MUST BE INVITED. UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU YOU ARE ANTI-SINNERS AND AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE ANTI-FEAST.
Mt 22:14 [KJV] And Jesus concluded, “Many are invited, but few are chosen.”
WE ARE THE INVITED AND THE CHOSEN BECAUSE WE HAVE FEASTS AND WE INVITE PEOPLE TO THE FEAST. THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE FEASTS ARE FROM THE DEVIL. JESUS CELEBRATED A FEAST AND WAS ABRAHAM, ISAAC, MOSES AND THE PROPHETS AND THE SAINTS IN THE BIBLE.
[instead of giving thanks because according to you it's your devotion to your saints.]
WELL, WELL, WELL… LET US PUT THINGS IN PROPER PERSPECTIVE. EVERY FEAST IS A THANKSGIVING TO GOD. WEDDING FEAST IS A FEAST OF THANKSGIVING TO GOD FOR THE HOLY MATRIMONY OF THE NEWLY WED COUPLE, THE PASSOVER FEAST IS A THANKSGIVING TO GOD FOR THE LIBERATION OF ISRAEL FROM SLAVERY, CHRISTMAS IS A CHRISTIAN FEAST OF THANKSGIVING TO GOD FOR THE BIRTH OF THE MESSIAH AND THE FEAST OF SAINTS ARE THANKSGIVING TO GOD FOR THE HEROIC WITNESS TO THE FAITH LIVED BY THAT PARTICULAR SAINT. SO, YOU NEED TO WIDEN YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF FEAST BECAUSE WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND IS A DISTORTION OF OUR UNDERSTANDING OF IT.
[why is it that there's party party every fiesta?]
ONCE AGAIN PLEASE READ THE BIBLE SO THAT YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT OF THE MEANING OF FEAST. HERE:
Gen 26:30 [KJV] “And he made them a feast, and they did eat and drink.”
SEE, ISAAC MADE A FEAST WITH EATING AND DRINKING. NOW, THE LORD JESUS HIMSELF TURNED WATER INTO WINE DURING THE WEDDING FEAST AT CANA IN GALILEE:
Jn 2:8-9 [KJV] “And he saith unto them, Draw out now, and bear unto the governor of the feast. And they bare it. When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom”
[instead of going to church, attending mass, and worshiping the saints. why is it that you're preparing lots of food? (having feast).]
OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE NOT BEING HONEST HERE. EVERY FEAST OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THERE ARE ON-GOING MASSES IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND EACH OF THOSE MASS ARE FILLED WITH PEOPLE TO OVERFLOWING. SO WE CATHOLICS ARE GOING TO THE CHURCH, ATTENDING MASS AND WORSHIPING THE LORD.
O NO NO NO… WE NEVER WORSHIP THE SAINTS. WE DO NOT WORSHIP THE SAINTS. NO NO NO… NADA, NUNCA, NIENTE, NOTHING, NEVER EVER…. IN RUSSIAN: NYET, NYET. HA HA HA…. THE FEAST IS A THANKSGIVING TO GOD IN HONOR OF A SAINT BUT NOT WORSHIP OF A SAINT.
WE ARE PREPARING FOOD BECAUSE THE FEAST HAS EATING AND DRINKING PART. YOU GIVE THANKS TO GOD NOT ONLY BY PRAYING AND SINGING BUT ALSO BY PROCESSION AND BY EATING AND DRINKING TOGETHER.
[instead of fasting in return for the good deeds that your saints had done to all of you.]
WELL, ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THE FACT THAT WE CATHOLICS ARE DOING FASTING. WE HAVE FEASTING AND WE HAVE FASTING. WE BOTH HAVE. FASTING IS DONE BEFORE THE FEAST BUT NOT DURING THE FEAST ITSELF. YOU ARE COMBINING THINGS THAT ARE BY NATURE IS CONTRARY. FEASTING MEANS REJOICING IN THE LORD THROUGH PRAYERS AND FOOD SHARING WHILE FASTING MEANS REGULATING THE FOOD TO DISCIPLINE THE BODY AS A SIGN OF REPENTANCE FROM SIN.
[and at the first place why are you worshiping saints?]
WHO TOLD YOU THAT WE ARE WORSHIPING SAINTS? HELLO. WE DO NOT WORSHIP SAINTS AND WE NEVER DID SO. O NO NO NO… NADA, NUNCA, NIENTE, NOTHING, NEVER EVER…. IN RUSSIAN: NYET, NYET. HA HA HA… PLEASE STOP HALLUCINATING. WE NEVER TEACH THAT AND WE NEVER ASKED OUR MEMBERS TO WORSHIP SAINTS. INSTEAD THE SAINTS ARE HUMAN BEINGS WHO ARE FAITHFUL SERVANTS OF GOD. WE HONOR THEM FOR THIER HEROIC FAITH BUT WE DO NOT WORSHIP. PLEASE CORRECT YOUR IGNORANCE OF OUR CATHOLIC FAITH.
[Don't get me wrong, don't even bother argue about you don't worship them.]
YOU ARE WRONG. WE DO NOT WORSHIP SAINTS AND THEREFORE YOUR CLAIM IS PREPOSTEROUS AND PLAIN LIE. PERIOD.
[Following and putting them in your houses and churches is an act of worship, biblically speaking.]
REALLY? WHERE CAN YOU FIND THAT IN THE BIBLE? CHAPTER AND VERSE PLEASE. WE HAVE READ THE BIBLE FROM COVER TO COVER BUT WE NEVER READ THAT PUTTING SAINTS IN HOUSES, CHURCHES IS AN ACT OF WORSHIP. PLEASE PROVIDE CITATION OTHERWISE STOP YOUR DELUSION. HA HA HA… IF YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT OF IT THE MEETING TENT OF MOSES AND THE TEMPLE OF SOLOMON WERE FILLED WITH SACRED IMAGES MADE OF WOOD, BRONZE AND GOLD.
[And that's the thing, is God not enough for a single person on earth to worship for? Why not worship Him, and Him alone?]
GOD IS ENOUGH BECAUSE HE IS GOD. BUT GOD IS NOT NARROW MINDED LIKE YOU. GOD DIDN’T SAY: “LOVE ME AND ME ALONE” INSTEAD GOD SAID: “LOVE ME AND LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR”. GOD ALSO SAID THAT WE HAVE TO “HONOR OUR FATHER AND OUR FATHER”. GOD ALSO TOLD US THAT HE HONORED THE SAINTS AND THEREFORE WE ARE HONORING THEM AS WELL BECAUSE WE ARE FOLLOWERS OF GOD AND NOT LIKE YOU WHO DISOBEY GOD:
Ps 149:9 [KJV] “To execute upon them the judgment written: this HONOUR HAVE ALL HIS SAINTS. Praise ye the LORD.”
THE SAINTS OF GOD HAVE HONOR YET YOU ARE NOT HONORING THE SAINTS. YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE CONTRARY WHICH IS THE TEACHING OF THE DEVIL. IF YOU BELONG TO GOD YOU WILL HONOR HIS SAINTS. YOU DON’T HAVE SAINTS WHILE GOD IS WITH HIS SAINTS AND ARE THE CATHOLICS:
Dt 33:2 [KJV] And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of SAINTS: from his right hand went a fiery law for them.
Jud_1:14 [KJV] “And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his SAINTS”
1 Sam 2:9 [KJV] “He will keep the feet of his SAINTS, and the wicked shall be silent in darkness; for by strength shall no man prevail.”
ALWAYS BEAR IN MIND THAT GOD WILL NEVER ABANDON MUCH FOR FORGET HIS SAINTS. SO WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS CONTRARY TO THE WILL OF GOD:
Ps 97:10 [KJV] “Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.”
Ps 37:28 [KJV] “For the LORD loveth judgment, and FORSAKETH NOT HIS SAINTS; they are PRESERVED FOR EVER: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.”
THE SAINTS SHALL LIVE FOREVER AS A GIFT OF GOD’S GRACE TO THOSE WHO ARE FAITHFUL TO HIM. THIS IS VERY CATHOLIC.
Ps 50:5 [KJV] “Gather my SAINTS together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.”