Annual Procession of Our Lady of Penafrancia in Naga City 2014
Another pagan ritual.
It’s a Christian PROCESSION. Walang Virgin Mary ang mga pagans.
Is it merely a procession?
What is a devotee?
Why are they struggling to touch the image, will it bring them luck?
Yes. It is a procession. No more no less.
A devotee is a Christian believer of God who expresses his love and affection toward the Lord Jesus and the Saints.
They are struggling to touch the image because that image represents Mary the Mother of Jesus whom they love.
It will not bring them luck but it will bring sacramental grace. YOUR CONCEPT OF LUCK REALLY YUCKS… YUCK!!! Ha ha ha…
A bleeding woman suffering for twelve years touched Jesus’ clothes and was healed.
rebulto ba si Jesus nang mahawakan sya ng babaeng may sakit??
Bakit si Cristong buhay lang ba ang pwedeng hawakan? Hindi ka ba nakikipaghawakan? Ang mga magulang mo ba hindi naghahawakan? Magiging tao ka ba kung hindi sila naghawakan? Binigay ng Dios ang Sense of Touch upang gamitin hindi upang maging makitid ang pag-iisip tulad mo. Hindi mo siguro hinahawakan ang iyong sarili gayon din ang iyong kapwa at ang ibang mabubuting bagay kaya ang epekto sa iyo ay kakitiran ng utak. Kawalang malay sa katotohanan at kagandahan ng buhay. Hahaha…
Ang templo ng Dios ay pwedeng hawakan at ang lahat ng banal na taglay ng Dambana nito. Ang larawang aming pino prosisyon ay galing sa Banal na Dambana ng Panginoon.
Ang mga bagay na banal sa Templo ng Dios pag nahawakan ng tao ay nakakapagbigay ng kabanalan. Ang larawang iyan ay banal dahil galing iyan sa Banal na Temploe at sa Banal na Altar o Sagradong Dambana ng Dios:
Ex 29:37 “… at ang dambana ay magiging kabanalbanalan; anomang masagi sa dambana ay magiging banal.”
Kaya walang masama kung gusto nilang mahawakan ang Banal na Larawan mula sa Banal na Altar o Dambana. KAYO BA MAYROONG HOLY ALTAR O BANAL NA DAMBANA? Nasaan?
Gintong guya.
Ha ha ha… Masyado ka namang duling. Larawan iyan ng Birheng Maria na nakadamit ‘The Woman Clothed with the Sun” [Rev 12:1]. ANG LAYO LAYO NIYAN SA GUYA. Nasa utak mo ang guya. Ha ha ha Ikaw ay utak GUYA. Ang Guya may sungay na tulad ng nasa kapilya ng mga Iglesia ni Manalo. Ang Penafrancia ay may Koronang 12 Stars na tanda ng Pagiging Reina ni Maria bilang Ina ng Hari ng mga Hari.
ha ha ha devotees including NAPOLES and families of corrupt politicians.
It’s more like a CULT…. YET, they still lie,cheat,steal, no matter how much wooden saints surround their houses, cars etch..
look at those criminals here in LA gangs have tattooed themselves with virgin mary, jesus Christ and they even have rosary …. ha ha ha ha they believe it can protect them that they would not get killed or get caught when they steal, kill etc…
It’s how twisted some people think.
Same thing with Filipinos 3 hail mary,our father,glory be and they’re forgiven of their sins.
The priest never teach them about accountability…Look at Napoles , another devotees STO NINO? but it didn’t help her to stop…. The stealing continuous….ha ha ha ha and she continue with her devotion with the participation of SOME catholic PRIEST..
May isang Pariseo ang nanalangin sa templo: “Panginoon, salamat hindi ako kagaya ng mga taong sinungaling, mandaraya, magnanakaw, nangangalunya o nitong piblukanong ito. Nag-aayuno ako, at nagbibigay ng ikapu ng kinikita ko”. Samantala, yung publikano ni hindi makatingala sa langit, dinadagukan ang kanyang sarili at nagsabi: “Panginoon, maawa ka sa akin, isang makasalanan.”
[ha ha ha devotees including NAPOLES and families of corrupt politicians.]
Kunwari ka pa e pinaboto sa iyo ng leader ng Culto mo ang mga Korup na Politico na iyon. Kakampi mo ang mga iyon e. Ha ha ha… Wag ibintang sa mga pari ang sarili niong kasamaan. YUN NGANG LIDER NG SECTA MO INIUUTOS SA INYO KUNG SINO ANG IBOBOTO AT KAHIT BULOK ANG PULITICO PARA KAYONG MGA UTO-UTO NA SUNOD NG SUNOD. WALANG KALAYAAN, PAGSINABI NG LIDER NA KAIBIGAN NG PULITICO TUWAD AGAD. HA HA HA…
SI NAPOLES DEBOTEE NG SANTO NINO. KAYO DEVOTEE NI SATANAS. ANG STO. NINO AY NASA BIBLIA AT IYAN AY WLANG IBA KUNDI ANG HOLY CHILD JESUS. E KAYO ANTI STO. NINO E DI ANTI CRISTO KAYO.
[It's more like a CULT.... YET, they still lie,cheat,steal, no matter how much wooden saints surround their houses, cars etch..]
THAT IS ALSO THE LIFESTYLE OF THE LEADERS OF YOUR CULT. EXACTLY LIKE THAT YET YOU STUPIDLY AND BLINDLY FOLLOW THEM. WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING?
[look at those criminals here in LA gangs have tattooed themselves with virgin mary, jesus Christ and they even have rosary .... ha ha ha ha they believe it can protect them that they would not get killed or get caught when they steal, kill etc...]
MOST OF THE CRIMINALS IN L.A. ARE NON CATHOLICS. THEY ARE MOSTLY PROTESTANTS AND ANTI CATHOLICS LIKE YOU BUT AFTER EXPERIENCING IMPRISONMENT THEY MOST PROBABLY FOUND OUT THAT THE CATHOLIC FAITH IS BETTER THAN YOURS. SO THEY FIND CONSOLATION THROUGH CATHOLIC SYMBOLS. THE FACT THAT THEY ARE NOT USING THE SYMBOLS OF YOUR SECT IT MEANS THAT THEY FIND YOUR FAITH DEMONIC AND HOPELESS. HA HA HA…
[It's how twisted some people think.]
IT IS YOUR MIND WHICH IS TWISTED AND NOT ONLY YOUR MIND BUT ALSO YOUR CONSCIENCE BECAUSE YOU ARE POINTING THE EVIL IN THE SOCIETY ON OTHERS EXCEPT ON YOURSELF. YOU ARE PART OF THAT EVIL POLITICAL SYSTEM IN THE PHILIPPINES.
[Same thing with Filipinos 3 hail mary,our father,glory be and they're forgiven of their sins.]
THIS IS STUPID. IT IS NEVER STATED IN THE CATHOLIC DOCTRINE THAT 3 HAIL MARY, OUR FATHER , GLORY BE AND THEIR SINS ARE FORGIVEN. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TAUGHT YOU THAT? THAT IS NOT THE CATHOLIC DOCTRINE.
[The priest never teach them about accountability...]
THIS IS VERY STUPID. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS TEACHING ACCOUNTABILITY. IT IS THE IGLESIA NI MANALO WHO DO NOT TEACH ACCOUNTABILITY BECAUSE THEY ARE IMPOSING THE WILL OF THE LEADER ON THEIR PEOPLE TO CHOOSE WHOM THEY HAVE PICKED RATHER THAN TEACHING THEM TO VOTE IN FREEDOM. THE INC MEMBERS ARE LIKE POLITICAL SLAVES. IT IS THE BORN AGAIN WHO ARE NOT TEACHING ACCOUNTABILITY BECAUSE THEY DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMPORTANCE OF GOOD WORKS FOR THE SALVATION OF THE PERSON, THEIRS IS FAITH ALONE. OUR CATHOLIC MORAL TEACHINGS IS ALWAYS ROOTED IN FAITH AND GOOD WORKS.
[Look at Napoles , another devotees STO NINO?]
NAPOLES PRETENDED TO BE A DEVOTEE OF THE STO. NINO THE WAY THE LEADERS OF YOUR CULT PRETENDED TO BE HOLY YET THEY ARE AS EVIL AS YOU AND NAPOLES. HYPOCRISY IS NOT EXCLUSIVE OF NAPOLES IT ALSO COMMON AMONG YOUR KIND. HA HA HA
[but it didn't help her to stop.... The stealing continuous....ha ha ha ha]
THE SAME THING WITH YOU. EVEN THOUGH YOU PRETEND TO BE CHRISTIAN YOU ARE STILL AS EVIL AND YOUR CULT AS CORRUPT. YOU AND NAPOLES BELONGS TO THE SAME KIND. CORRUPTION IS OFFICIALLY CONDEMNED IN THE OFFICIAL MORAL TEACHINGS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HOW ABOUT IN YOURS?
[and she continue with her devotion with the participation of SOME catholic PRIEST..]
THIS IS STUPID. THOSE CATHOLIC PRIESTS DIDN’T PARTICIPATE IN THE CORRUPTION OF NAPOLES. INSTEAD WITHOUT THEM KNOWING IT NAPOLES BEFRIENDED THEM SO THAT SHE CAN GAIN CERTAIN DEGREE OF RESPECTABILITY TO HIDE HER EVILDOINGS. NO PRIEST PARTICIPATED IN THE CORRUPTION OF NAPOLES INSTEAD GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WERE THE ONES INVOLVED. YET, YOU DO NOT REJECT THESE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS YOU ADORE THEM.
Is typhoon Yolanda not enough for you people? Burn those images!
We are not out of our minds like you who burn sacred images. If you want you can burn all the images of your family and you can jump into the fire but dont impose your fire on us. You can swallow it if you want.
As regards the typhoon Yolanda, she affected Filipinos in her parth regardless of religion. So stop imposing your hallucinations on us.
Talk about extreme fanaticism. This is what the early settlers taught the filipino people when they were here. They convince the inhabitants of every island to have fear in one being and no one else. Really. To say that they have been practicing their religion thru “blind faith” is an understatement. Religion only tells you the things they want you to hear and believe. The stuff that a whole bunch of people under the influence of a much higher grade of weeds come up with an idea to put their hallucinations into a book. Someone found that book and thought that it was written by a very intelligent person on earth. You don’t say! One example for debate; how can a guy managed to fit all living animals in pairs of opposite sexes in a single boat? You’re gonna need a boat three times the size of the state of michigan to have them all in a boat.
Religion brought us to scientific advancement and great learning in Education. Almost all of great Universities started from Catholic and Christian influence. On the contrary the Atheists and those with no religion are the most stupid ones. Look at the Communists. They are atheistic and they enslaved people.
“and Saints”???
Can you tell me where you can find that such a devotion was commanded or even just approved by God?
“They are struggling to touch the image because that image represents Mary the Mother of Jesus whom they love.”
I doubt that if you ask those people, they will give you the same answer. What a funny excuse. The truth is, they will tell you that they are after blessings or whatever that they think the object is capable of giving. And please, don’t even claim they do notpray to that image.
If you are not ignorant of the Bible you should have read it on the passages concerning the Procession of the Ark of the Covenant which is a Sacred Object with Statues. In their Processions there are singers and musicians and incense and throng of people. ARE YOU IGNORANT OF THAT?
Well, who cares if the people cannot answer the way I do. How about your family members can they answer exactly the way you do? Such a reasoning is very shallow.
STOP YOUR HALLUCINATION. DO NOT PRETEND AS IF YOU ARE THE SPOKEPERSON OF THOSE PEOPLE. YOU ARE NOT AND SO STOP TRYING TO BE. You are imposing your own ignorance on those people.
They do not pray to that image. They are praying to God through Mary and the Saints. Christians are called to pray for one another. So it is but natural that we are asking Mary, Joseph, Peter and Paul, etc. to pray for us and with us. DON’T TELL US THAT YOU ARE NOT ASKING ANOTHER PERSON TO PRAY FOR YOU. NO HYPOCRISY PLEASE.
malaki ang pagkakaiba ng altar ng Diyos sa mga rebultong dindasalang parang diyos!
may nabasa kaba sa Bibliya masamang gumawa ng altar para sa Diyos?….diba WALA!!
PERO marami kang mababasa na masamang gumawa at sumamba sa mga imahen o rebulto na gawa ng tao!
Ex 20:3-4 (NIV) “You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.”
Ps 97:7 (NIV) All who worship images are put to shame, those who boast in idols.
Isa 42:8 (NIV) “I am the Lord; that is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols.”
1 Jn 5:21 (NIV) Dear children, keep yourselves from idols.
[malaki ang pagkakaiba ng altar ng Diyos sa mga rebultong dindasalang parang diyos!]
Ha ha ha… MALAKI ANG KAIBAHAN NG KATOTOHANAN SA KATANGAHAN MO. Sinong impakto ang nagsabi sa iyong dinadasalan namin ang rebulto na parang Dios? Kung hindi ka ba naman ignorante sa Biblia ang People of God nagdasasal sa loob ng Templo at nakatapat sa ALTAR ng DAKONG KABANALBANALAN or MOST HOLY PLACE. Ano ang nanduon? REBULTO NG ARK OF THE COVENANT NA YARI SA KAHOY AT GINTO:
Ex 37:1-9 [NIV]
“The Ark
1Bezalel made the ark of acacia wood—two and a half cubits long, a cubit and a half wide, and a cubit and a half high.a 2He overlaid it with pure gold, both inside and out, and made a gold molding around it. 3He cast four gold rings for it and fastened them to its four feet, with two rings on one side and two rings on the other. 4Then he made poles of acacia wood and overlaid them with gold. 5And he inserted the poles into the rings on the sides of the ark to carry it.
6He made the atonement cover of pure gold—two and a half cubits long and a cubit and a half wide. 7Then he made two cherubim out of hammered gold at the ends of the cover. 8He made one cherub on one end and the second cherub on the other; at the two ends he made them of one piece with the cover. 9The cherubim had their wings spread upward, overshadowing the cover with them. The cherubim faced each other, looking toward the cover.”
Ang Larawang iyan ay nililibot sa siyudad ng Jerusalem in a Procession:
Ps 68:24 [NIV] “Your PROCESSION, God, has come into view, the procession of my God and King into the SANCTUARY.”
Ang Dios ba mismo ang pino prosisyon diyan? Hinde, yung gawang inanyuan na nakalagay sa Dambana ng Templo. PWEDE BA GAMITIN ANG UTAK. Magbasa ng New International Version ng Mabuti.
Kayo ba may larawan sa Pagsamba at Bahay Dalanginan nio? Nasaan ang Altar nio at ano ang nakalagay? BAKIT DI MO MASAGOT? TAKOT KANG MALAMAN NA SINUNGALING KA?
[may nabasa kaba sa Bibliya masamang gumawa ng altar para sa Diyos?....diba WALA!!]
Talagang wala kaya naman may Altar kami at may Dambana para sa Dios. KAYO NASAAN ANG ALTAR AT DAMBANA NIO SA DIOS? IKaw nasaan ang iyong Altar at Dambana? Meron ba o wala? Kung wala e di sa DEMONIO KA.
[PERO marami kang mababasa na masamang gumawa at sumamba sa mga imahen o rebulto na gawa ng tao!]
Hahaha… Tanga. Marami ka ring mababasa sa Biblia na nag-utos ang Dios na gumawa ng larawan para sa Templo at sa Altar ng Templo o Dambana, Sanctuario o Tabernaculo:
1 Kings 6:29-35 [NIV] “29On the walls all around the temple, in both the inner and outer rooms, he carved cherubim, palm trees and open flowers. 30He also covered the floors of both the inner and outer rooms of the temple with gold.
31For the entrance to the inner sanctuary he made doors out of olive wood that were one fifth of the width of the sanctuary. 32And on the two olive-wood doors he carved cherubim, palm trees and open flowers, and overlaid the cherubim and palm trees with hammered gold. 33In the same way, for the entrance to the main hall he made doorframes out of olive wood that were one fourth of the width of the hall. 34He also made two doors out of juniper wood, each having two leaves that turned in sockets. 35He carved cherubim, palm trees and open flowers on them and overlaid them with gold hammered evenly over the carvings.”
HINDI MO YATA BINABASA ANG IBANG BAHAGI NG BIBLIA NIO KAYA KULANG KULANG ANG IYONG KAALAMAN. TIGNAN MO NGA PURO CARVINGS IN WOODS AND GOLD ANG NAKALAGAY SA LOOB NG SANCTUARIO NG DIOS. HA HA HA… MAG-ARAL PARA HINDI KA SAKSING SINUNGALING.
[Ex 20:3-4 (NIV) "You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below."]
TALAGA NAMANG WALA KAMING IBANG GOD LIBAN SA IISANG DIOS. SINONG SIRA ULO BA ANG NAGSABI SA IYO NA MARAMI ANG DIOS NAMIN? EXCUSE ME. WAG MO KAMING IDAMAY SA KABALIWAN MO. EVERY WORSHIP WE DECLARE: “WE BELIEVE IN ONE GOD… AND IN ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST”.
HINDI NAMAN NAMIN TINUTURO NA DIOS ANG MGA REBULTO NAMIN TULAD NI MOISES AT SOLOMON NA NAGLAGAY NG MGA GAWANG INANYUAN SA ALTAR AT DAMBANA AT SANCTUARIO NG DIOS.
ANG PINAGBABAWAL AY LARAWAN NG DIOS DIOSAN. KAMI ANG NAGPASIRA NG MGA IYON HINDI NAMAN KAYO E. BAGONG LITAW NA LANG KAYO. WINASAK NA NAMIN ANG MGA TEMPLO NG MGA PAGANO SA EGYPT, GREECE AT ROME NG LUMITAW KAYO.
[Ps 97:7 (NIV) All who worship images are put to shame, those who boast in idols.]
WE DO NOT WORSHIP IMAGES. OUR IMAGES ARE NOT IDOLS BUT SACRED IMAGES OF THE SANCTUARY OF THE TEMPLE. UNFORTUNATELY YOU ARE IGNORANT OF THEM.
[Isa 42:8 (NIV) "I am the Lord; that is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols."]
WE KNOW THAT AND WE DO NOT GIVE THE GLORY OF GOD TO ANY IDOLS. WE HATE IDOLS AND WE DESTROYED THEM. OUR IMAGES ARE NOT IDOLS. WHO IS THE DEVIL WHO TOLD YOU THAT THE IMAGE OF THE VIRGIN MARY IS AN IDOL? EXCUSE ME. MARY IS NOT AN IDOL AND SO HER IMAGE IS NOT AN IMAGE OF A FALSE GOD. MARY IS NOT GOD. SHE IS A HUMAN PERSON BELOVED OF GOD. SO HER IMAGE IS AN IMAGE OF A HUMAN PERSON BELOVED OF GOD. UNFORTUNATELY YOUR SELF IMPOSED STUPIDITY CANNOT FATHOM THAT BASIC FACT.
[1 Jn 5:21 (NIV) Dear children, keep yourselves from idols.]
WE ARE KEEPING OURSELVES FROM IDOLS AND WE DON’T HAVE IDOLS. WE ONLY HAVE IMAGES OF THE LORD JESUS AND THE SAINTS. THEY ARE NOT IDOLS. SO STOP IMPOSING YOUR STUPIDITY ON US.
Ang sinasabi mo ba ay kapag nahawakan nila ang Peñafrancia, magiging banal sila?
MAGBASA KA NG MABUTI. GAMITIN MO ANG UTAK MO. ANG SABI NG BIBLIA ANG BAGAY NA BANAL SA ALTAR NG DIOS ANG LAHAT NG MAKAHAWAK O MASAGI DUON AY MAGIGING BANAL. ANG SABI KO ANG LARAWAN NA IYAN AY GALING SA LOOB NG TEMPLO NG DIOS AT SA BANAL NA ALTAR:
Ex 29:37 [NIV] “For seven days make atonement for the altar and consecrate it. Then the altar will be most holy, and whatever touches it will be holy.”
SO ANONG EPEKTO NON SA IYO? MAGIGING MASAMA KA BA O MAGIGING BANAL AYON SA SINABI NG DIOS? WHATEVER TOUCHES THE ALTAR SHALL BE HOLY BECAUSE THE ALTAR IS MOST HOLY. BAKIT WALA BA KAYONG ALTAR NA HOLY? EVIL YATA ANG ALTAR NIO E. HA HA HA
Is that Jesus they want to touch?
Are you now claiming that the Lady of Peñafrancia has the power to heal?
[Is that Jesus they want to touch?]
WHERE CAN YOU FIND IN THE BIBLE THAT ONLY JESUS MUST BE TOUCHED? PLEASE DO NOT IMPOSE IGNORANCE ON US. IT IS NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE STATED THAT ONLY JESUS MUST BE TOUCHED.
MOSES, DAVID, ABRAHAM, PETER AND PAUL, MARY AND JOSEPH CAN BE TOUCHED.
WILL YOU BECOME A HUMAN PERSON IF NOT YOUR PARENTS TOUCHED EACH OTHER? HA HA HA… MAY BE YOU ARE A PRODUCT OF EUGENICS, A TEST TUBE BABY. HA HA HA… TOUCHING IS ALLOWED TO HUMAN PERSONS AND WE ARE ALLOWED TO TOUCH ANY OBJECT WE WANT TO TOUCH UNLESS THEY ARE POISONOUS OR DANGEROUS.
SACRED OBJECTS CAN BE TOUCHED.
[Are you now claiming that the Lady of Peñafrancia has the power to heal?]
WE ARE NOT CLAIMING THAT THE LADY OF PENAFRANCIA HAS THE POWER TO HEAL BUT THAT GOD SANCTIFIED HIS TEMPLE AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE ON ITS SACRED ALTAR AND SANCTUARY.
THE LADY OF PENAFRANCIA IS MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS AND MARY IS BELOVED BY GOD. HER PRAYERS ARE BEING ANSWERED BY THE LORD JESUS [cf. John 2]. SO THE POWER TO HEAL COMES FROM GOD THROUGH THE INTERCESSIONS OF MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS.
How about in your cult do you have healings? How?
So now the images are “sacred”.
Slowly but surely, you reveal the flaws in your belief system.
Please tell me where you can find these sacred images in the bible.
Because surely, there are biblical commands AGAINST them.